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Frank Colson's avatar

These are sensible comments, they address major issues. You have underestimated the importance of the Higher Education Sector (R&D economy) in all this. All universities have their 'halo' economies, some of which are global, many built up over decades with the EU, Horizon is only a part of the picture: the challenge is that they depend on an ever greater degree of staff and student mobility than seems politically feasible. For reasons which are difficult for an outsider to understand UK institutions seem to lack the political heft of their Continental or North American competitors: their voice is barely heard in Westminster and Whitehall. This despite the huge financial and structural challenge they face.

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Jim Power & Chris Johns's avatar

Thanks.

It is hard to give due weight to all factors in a short article. Apologies if I gave the impression that higher education isn’t a really big deal. Neglect universities and other forms of education at your peril. There is plenty of evidence that the presence of a university in a town or city makes a massive difference to its economy. Much bigger than most people realise.

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Frank Colson's avatar

Agreed - but the problem is made so much worse by the lack of instruments by which to deal with it. These were developing under the EU, reflecting the deepening of the SM. Linking wider civil society in university cities across the Union. The extent to which universities can act as independent entities is likely to be severely curtailed by Whitehall - is always has. What is fascinating about the UK is the extent to which its universities seem inhibited or unable to exercise the muscle of their US or EU Member state equivalents. They punch well below their weight.

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Jim Power & Chris Johns's avatar

It's partly about the superficial way we do everything these days. Gove killed off expertise so all we have left is sloganeering, posturing amateurs. And a loss of expertise! And a loss of 'collective knowledge'. Simple facts become unknown.

Other countries understand the multiplier effect that universities have on a town, both in terms of its economy and its wider social wellbeing. This 'knowledge' comes as surprise to too many people in the UK these days.

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Frank Colson's avatar

It will be fascinating to see the impact of the funding crisis of UK universities on the relationship with the EU. Clearly nothing can happen until after GE 24. Politics abhors a vacuum, and the measures contemplated to resolve the funding crisis may include much deeper collaboration between UK and EU institutions than is currently the case. If so that would continue a process which has been a half-century in the making. I leave you to think about the political fall-out

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Deirdre Mooney's avatar

Pragmatic and pointed ... hope they’ll listen for the sake of their citizens & economy

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Jim Power & Chris Johns's avatar

Thanks Deirdre.

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